damerell: (religion)
damerell ([personal profile] damerell) wrote2006-10-17 01:17 pm

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I just finished Dawkins's "The God Delusion" and am now very angry about everything.

Everyone should read it, even - especially - those currently deluded.

On the plus point I know what to get my mother for her birthday.

[identity profile] edith-the-hutt.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 12:31 pm (UTC)(link)
angry about everything?

Even beer? You can't be angry at beer.

[identity profile] angua.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 12:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I can.

I am angry about the beer that leaked in to my carpet. It was both a waste of beer and a horrible mess.

[identity profile] damerell.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 12:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Gah - I've got a mile of plastic sheeting I could have given you some of.

[identity profile] angua.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 12:36 pm (UTC)(link)
It was unexpected leakage rather than dribbling from people being clumsy.

I declare you to be the king of having useful things I need after the fact though, that's twice in about a week ;)

[identity profile] damerell.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 12:51 pm (UTC)(link)
With experience you find that leakage is not unexpected at all.

[identity profile] angua.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 12:54 pm (UTC)(link)
There is really not a lot I can say to that :p

(except that this was about 20 pints in the course of a day so more a failure)

[identity profile] clanwilliam.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 01:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Y'know, I really don't want to know why.

[identity profile] damerell.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 01:23 pm (UTC)(link)
It is actually rather prosaic. Several flats ago, our landlady had two dreadful uncomfortable sofas in the living room. We stowed them in the garage wrapped in the sheeting to keep them in good condition.

[identity profile] angua.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 01:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I was just going to gloss over that. Sometimes it's easier.

[identity profile] ceb.livejournal.com 2006-10-18 01:09 pm (UTC)(link)
*beery sympathy*

[identity profile] damerell.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 12:34 pm (UTC)(link)
But I bet some clown attributes the existence of beer to inspiration by the old man with the beard, which gets us into the whole business of belittling all human achievement.

OK. Maybe I'm not quite angry about _everything_. :-)

[identity profile] wildeabandon.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 12:49 pm (UTC)(link)
"Beer is proof that God loves us, and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin ;>

[identity profile] damerell.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 12:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Franklin, of course, a relatively harmless Deist...

[identity profile] madaussie.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 04:12 pm (UTC)(link)
were not the tablets given to moses so he could grind his hops?

[identity profile] damerell.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 04:16 pm (UTC)(link)
If Moses had been given tablets for the voices in his head, we might all have been spared a lot of trouble.

Mind you, if God turns up and picks a fight with you in a pub (Exodus 4:24) that might be regarded as more definite proof of his existence.

[identity profile] madaussie.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 04:23 pm (UTC)(link)
"I see three of you! Which one do I punch first.. But wait! The three are one"

but if I were to swing and miss, would that disprove G*ds existance? :)

[identity profile] damerell.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 04:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd go for the Holy Ghost who's obviously a bit of a wuss but poses some threat, especially of unexpected impregnation. Jesus is no trouble at all because with nail holes he can neither punch nor kick effectively, unless he thinks of turning all the water in your body into wine - he's obviously like one of those crippled superheroes with amazing mental powers.

Dawkins quotes a lovely twist on the ontological argument which disproves God's existence (inasmuch as the ontological argument proves anything at all) by pointing out that creating the universe while not existing would obviously be much harder than doing so while existing and hence a God who could do so would be more perfect.

I have always had a secret sympathy for the ontological argument, since it can also be used to "prove" the existence of the Space Battleship _Yamato_.

[identity profile] madaussie.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 07:20 pm (UTC)(link)
what? what do you mean prove the existance of the space battleship Yamato, if it didnt exist, the the marriage of Kodai + Yuki is.. gasp! a SHAM! NOOOOO!

We beat the comet empire when we destroyed Haleys comet. Everyone knows that. Thats why NASA went to the moon to get it before the Russians did.

Next you will be trying to convice me its not protoculture powering my subaru.

[identity profile] damerell.livejournal.com 2006-10-18 04:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Precisely why we are fortunate to have the ontological argument come to our rescue.

[identity profile] edith-the-hutt.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 03:12 pm (UTC)(link)
"Everybody has to believe in something.....I believe I'll have another drink."

-W.C. Fields