damerell: (religion)
damerell ([personal profile] damerell) wrote2006-10-17 01:17 pm

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I just finished Dawkins's "The God Delusion" and am now very angry about everything.

Everyone should read it, even - especially - those currently deluded.

On the plus point I know what to get my mother for her birthday.

[identity profile] edith-the-hutt.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 12:31 pm (UTC)(link)
angry about everything?

Even beer? You can't be angry at beer.

[identity profile] angua.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 12:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I can.

I am angry about the beer that leaked in to my carpet. It was both a waste of beer and a horrible mess.

[identity profile] damerell.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 12:34 pm (UTC)(link)
But I bet some clown attributes the existence of beer to inspiration by the old man with the beard, which gets us into the whole business of belittling all human achievement.

OK. Maybe I'm not quite angry about _everything_. :-)

[identity profile] damerell.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 12:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Gah - I've got a mile of plastic sheeting I could have given you some of.

[identity profile] angua.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 12:36 pm (UTC)(link)
It was unexpected leakage rather than dribbling from people being clumsy.

I declare you to be the king of having useful things I need after the fact though, that's twice in about a week ;)

[identity profile] cookwitch.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 12:37 pm (UTC)(link)
But...but...I don't WANT to be angry about everything!

[identity profile] hazyjayne.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 12:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I think I am already angry enough about Other Things at the moment.

However, was it interesting?

[identity profile] wildeabandon.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 12:49 pm (UTC)(link)
"Beer is proof that God loves us, and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin ;>

[identity profile] damerell.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 12:51 pm (UTC)(link)
With experience you find that leakage is not unexpected at all.

[identity profile] damerell.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 12:51 pm (UTC)(link)
It's my natural emotional state, me.

[identity profile] angua.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 12:54 pm (UTC)(link)
There is really not a lot I can say to that :p

(except that this was about 20 pints in the course of a day so more a failure)

[identity profile] damerell.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 12:54 pm (UTC)(link)
You may be temporarily excused under the circumstances.

It was interesting and very amusing in the bits where I wasn't reminded that people actually believe in this stuff. Dawkins has really pulled the gloves off - indeed, part of his point is that we give an unjustified respect to religion when we would feel perfectly free to mock or pity an adult who believed in the Tooth Fairy or Santa Claus.

[identity profile] damerell.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 12:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Franklin, of course, a relatively harmless Deist...

[identity profile] geekette8.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 12:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Brain breakage at finding [livejournal.com profile] cookwitch in [livejournal.com profile] damerell's LJ.

But thanks for the book rec - I'll check it out! Angry is good.

[identity profile] robhu.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 01:05 pm (UTC)(link)
It is a truly excellent book isn't it? I am probably going to offer to buy a copy for each of my religious friends.

There were two things I wasn't aware of before I read the book... That Dawkins is good friends with the bishop of Oxford, and that he was abused in some way by a religious teacher at school.

[identity profile] cookwitch.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 01:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Heh - hello. :) I met young D at B Movie, when he was as bit the worse for wear after a mosh pit.

[identity profile] clanwilliam.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 01:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Y'know, I really don't want to know why.

[identity profile] damerell.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 01:16 pm (UTC)(link)
We are both B-Movie regulars.

[identity profile] damerell.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 01:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I see no indication that that teacher was religious; Dawkins is just making the point, in passing, that in fact this experience was not the Worst Thing Ever. Having had similar experiences I would concur; Minty being excessively tactile was annoying but has hardly blasted my life forever.

[identity profile] damerell.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 01:23 pm (UTC)(link)
It is actually rather prosaic. Several flats ago, our landlady had two dreadful uncomfortable sofas in the living room. We stowed them in the garage wrapped in the sheeting to keep them in good condition.

[identity profile] angua.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 01:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I was just going to gloss over that. Sometimes it's easier.

[identity profile] mtbc100.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 01:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Did you see his Root of All Evil – two-parter on television?

[identity profile] edith-the-hutt.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 03:12 pm (UTC)(link)
"Everybody has to believe in something.....I believe I'll have another drink."

-W.C. Fields

[identity profile] damerell.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 03:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Nope - I don't watch TV. Was it good?

[identity profile] mtbc100.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 03:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know yet. I have half a Gb of it here sitting on my computer waiting for a rainy day. (-:

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