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posted by [personal profile] damerell at 02:56pm on 10/03/2009
Dear lazyweb,

Credit card provider who aren't tainted by Verified by Visa. Any suggestions?
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posted by [identity profile] gaius-octavian.livejournal.com at 02:57pm on 10/03/2009
Amex.
 
posted by [identity profile] damerell.livejournal.com at 03:00pm on 10/03/2009
Cunning. Shame no-one takes it, really. :-)
 
posted by [identity profile] gaius-octavian.livejournal.com at 03:09pm on 10/03/2009
Depends where you want to shop :-)

I need to get a Diner's Club card too, just to be perverse.
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posted by [personal profile] fanf at 03:01pm on 10/03/2009
HSBC has not yet forced me to be molested by Mastercard.
 
posted by [identity profile] damerell.livejournal.com at 03:03pm on 10/03/2009
"currently only available to existing HSBC current account customers". I see this is going to be fun.
 
posted by [identity profile] hilarityallen.livejournal.com at 06:45pm on 10/03/2009
HSBC will also try their very best to get to be Irritated by Stupid Pop-Up Windows of Unsafe, even if you're a current customer.
 
posted by [identity profile] daneel-olivaw.livejournal.com at 11:52pm on 10/03/2009
Lloyds TSB are similarly unincumbered.
 
posted by [identity profile] damerell.livejournal.com at 02:34pm on 11/03/2009
Thanks.
 
posted by [identity profile] hazyjayne.livejournal.com at 03:02pm on 10/03/2009
Any Visa Electron card, but many online retailers do not accept them
 
posted by [identity profile] damerell.livejournal.com at 04:01pm on 10/03/2009
Some tainted ones do, though, and moneysavingexpert suggests the Travelex prepay card. I might investigate that option.
 
posted by [identity profile] siani-hedgehog.livejournal.com at 04:20pm on 10/03/2009
visa electron has the taint. i use electron because i am so bad with money. you CAN just keep chosing to register later with most retailers, though...
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posted by [personal profile] bob at 03:10pm on 10/03/2009
quite frankly just accept it. soon sites wont sell you stuff unless you go through it.
 
posted by [identity profile] damerell.livejournal.com at 03:12pm on 10/03/2009
That is true if and only if your card provider makes it mandatory.
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posted by [personal profile] bob at 03:15pm on 10/03/2009
or if the site has been told they are liable for fraud unless the transaction has been through "verified by visa".
 
posted by [identity profile] damerell.livejournal.com at 03:16pm on 10/03/2009
Citation needed.
 
posted by [identity profile] crazyscot.livejournal.com at 03:20pm on 10/03/2009
When I looked (~2 yrs ago) into what was involved in getting a credit card merchant account - even via worldpay - it was crazy. The terms were along the lines of "if there's a chargeback, you are completely on your own, unless you have carried out all security steps we advise you are reasonable [postcode/address check, cvv, 3d-secure] and you comply with their results, and even then if there is a chargeback we can decide not to help you out and you have no right of appeal".
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posted by [personal profile] bob at 03:22pm on 10/03/2009

Okay my statement may have been slightly bold.
i can see it coming though.

 
posted by [identity profile] razornet.livejournal.com at 04:13pm on 10/03/2009
Speaking as someone sitting at the sharp end of this mess I thought I'd comment. *ALL* Maestro cards are required to have 3D secure verification for transactions to succeed. So that's one card brand down (though it is effectively a debit card). Interestingly there will be a mastercard "debit" in the future though this is not to circumvent SecureCode but to allow rebilling of the card without Mastercard having to admit they cocked up there.

Ultimately the card schemes can insist on 3D secure across the board and have threatened (and imposed, I gather in the case of mastercard) large punitive fines for non-compliance. It seems almost a certainty that this will be universal, what I think of that should be clear enough.

I don't recall my lloyds credit card ever requesting 3D but that was a while ago.
 
posted by [identity profile] valkyriekaren.livejournal.com at 05:20pm on 10/03/2009
My Lloyds Visa Debit card now does (as of last week)
 
posted by [identity profile] crazyscot.livejournal.com at 03:17pm on 10/03/2009
Not IME: a couple of years ago, one particular site (joker.com) insisted on 3d-secure for an online purchase, and required one to jump through ludicrous hoops if one's bank didn't support it. (Fill in your details on this web form; print it out; sign; tape your physical card to it; fax, or scan and email, to their accounts people.)
 
posted by [identity profile] antinomy.livejournal.com at 03:52pm on 10/03/2009
The Post Office Mastercard, aiui. I've applied for one in that belief, but I haven't got it yet so I can't verify the fact.
 
posted by [identity profile] damerell.livejournal.com at 03:58pm on 10/03/2009
Thanks. I might have a go.

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