posted by
damerell at 07:19am on 08/12/2009
Serious:
On balance, I like Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings, but...
The obvious complaint is that what is done for comic relief is wince-inducingly awful.
Besides that, though, he's at his worse when Tolkien shines through. It's bad when JRRT's lines are delivered ineptly, but in a sense it's worse when his lines are delivered well and stand out from the rest of the lines from the character. Eowyn's actress _can_ do Tolkien's Eowyn and sometimes she does, and compared to that the rest looks so weak.
Class War:
Tolkien is not without his faults, though, and one that is apparent in either version is that Samwise Gamgee would be ten times the Ringbearer Frodo is. But he is lower class and so can't do it. Personally, I think Gandalf sends him because he knows in desperate straits Sam _will_ shiv Frodo to save the world. Sam is the only person who ever gives up the Ring without coercion. He could drop it.
40-odd people in a previous poll say I'm a boy version:
[Poll #1496119]
Practical:
Dear filmmakers: I am not a soldier, and I never have been one. Nevertheless, my understanding is that armour is and was worn because it provides a modicum of protection from sharp, pointy, and/or bludgeoning objects. As such, it would be nice if occasionally in your productions we saw it doing so. Or, indeed, we ever saw it doing so. Besides bits of LOTR I am particularly thinking of the end of The Last Samurai where apparently men in armour with big fucking swords are no more deadly then unarmoured men with fixed bayonets who never train to use them.
PPPS:
As I understood it Minas Tirith and Osgiliath are more than 500 yards apart.
On balance, I like Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings, but...
The obvious complaint is that what is done for comic relief is wince-inducingly awful.
Besides that, though, he's at his worse when Tolkien shines through. It's bad when JRRT's lines are delivered ineptly, but in a sense it's worse when his lines are delivered well and stand out from the rest of the lines from the character. Eowyn's actress _can_ do Tolkien's Eowyn and sometimes she does, and compared to that the rest looks so weak.
Class War:
Tolkien is not without his faults, though, and one that is apparent in either version is that Samwise Gamgee would be ten times the Ringbearer Frodo is. But he is lower class and so can't do it. Personally, I think Gandalf sends him because he knows in desperate straits Sam _will_ shiv Frodo to save the world. Sam is the only person who ever gives up the Ring without coercion. He could drop it.
40-odd people in a previous poll say I'm a boy version:
[Poll #1496119]
Practical:
Dear filmmakers: I am not a soldier, and I never have been one. Nevertheless, my understanding is that armour is and was worn because it provides a modicum of protection from sharp, pointy, and/or bludgeoning objects. As such, it would be nice if occasionally in your productions we saw it doing so. Or, indeed, we ever saw it doing so. Besides bits of LOTR I am particularly thinking of the end of The Last Samurai where apparently men in armour with big fucking swords are no more deadly then unarmoured men with fixed bayonets who never train to use them.
PPPS:
As I understood it Minas Tirith and Osgiliath are more than 500 yards apart.
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I'm not really sure that was a good thing, because now my brain is transplanting all sorts of Artoo and Threepio's dialogue on to Frodo and Sam.
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"My Sam Gamgee is indeed a reflexion of the English soldier, of the privates and batmen I knew in the 1914 war, and recognised as so far superior to myself" (The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien, ed. Humphrey Carpenter).
See also here for Tolkein referring to Sam as the "chief hero" of the story.
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It's good he chucks her, though, cos she would only have been unhappy with the broody fucker (and the age gap might have been a bit much in the end - what, 60 years or something??), and she gets Faramir instead, who is Teh Hott Geekboy and all-round awesome. I'd pick Faramir in a heartbeat, no question.
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... of course it was good for _her_, particularly if it's book-Faramir who isn't a dweeb, but my point is _he_ is an idiot.
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The cooking joke was beyond sexist, I'm so glad it was cut.
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That fell flat with me as well, for similar reasons.
(Being a vegetarian, I'm used to having to go hungry and so I'm used to having to eat *whatever* is available that won't make me ill, no matter how bad. I simply can't imagine turning my nose up at something just because it happened to taste terrible. Better terrible food than going hungry!)
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(Also, I didn't fill in the poll; presumably that was
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(Book) Frodo in fact gives the ring up voluntarily not once, but twice. Once to Gandalf (who chucks it in the fire), then a second time to Tom Bombadil (who puts it on and fails to disappear). Of course, he also offers to give it away both at the council and to Galadriel, but since he isn't asked to do so it's impossible to tell how easy he would find it to go through with.